virginia, to clean up their act. we'll talk about that. but we started with something i was really interested in, taking a trip to the grocery store. just take me through, i want to get in your mind a little bit here. so you're walking in. i want to shop right for my family tonight. tell me what i should do. what should i be thinking about, at least? >> the quickest and easiest lesson to learn is what my granddad taught me when i was 5 years old, everything in moderate and a little bit of what you like. i think once you've taken excessive snacking and fizzy drinks out of the equation and really you're in a place where, you know, you can have two fairly good meals in a day and a half decent breakfast. i mean, the biggest lesson you could generally learn is most -- most problems, i think, can be solved by cooking from scratch. >> so look for real ingredients, raw ingredients. >> absolutely. but, you know, even things like, you know, in england we have the full monty, full breakfast, english muffins, eggs, and there's a way of doing that with less than a blueberry muffin from one of y